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	<title>Comments on: Reviewing Calendars</title>
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		<title>By: Remco</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-292</link>
		<author>Remco</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-292</guid>
					<description>Hi Richie,

Indeed beeplet.com was build by a dutch company, they redraw the service.
What are you looking for as you mentioned web2.0?

What about http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/ 
or an ical form?

Best Regards,

Remco
Maastricht, the Netherlands</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Richie,</p>
<p>Indeed beeplet.com was build by a dutch company, they redraw the service.<br />
What are you looking for as you mentioned web2.0?</p>
<p>What about <a href="http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/</a><br />
or an ical form?</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
<p>Remco<br />
Maastricht, the Netherlands</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Chizhik</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-294</link>
		<author>Alex Chizhik</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-294</guid>
					<description>Richie,

Thanks for mentioning Planypus. I'm sorry that you did not want to try it out. I hope that you do and you might find that it was worth your while. 

Planypus, however, is not a Web 2.0 calendar. It is rather a site focused on plan making with friends. Planypus helps groups of friends casually and democratically make plans together. 

We have many users that truly love our site both in the American and International users. We would be very excited to have you try Planypus out, and I hope you would do so.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richie,</p>
<p>Thanks for mentioning Planypus. I&#8217;m sorry that you did not want to try it out. I hope that you do and you might find that it was worth your while. </p>
<p>Planypus, however, is not a Web 2.0 calendar. It is rather a site focused on plan making with friends. Planypus helps groups of friends casually and democratically make plans together. </p>
<p>We have many users that truly love our site both in the American and International users. We would be very excited to have you try Planypus out, and I hope you would do so.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: NonoFr</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-306</link>
		<author>NonoFr</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-306</guid>
					<description>Hello Richie,

Just a thought about other Open source CRM initiatives although not coded in PHP
Have a look as they seem to have a workflow system working... : http://www.centriccrm.com/

Keep up the spirit and the excellent work Thank you for all the work done !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Richie,</p>
<p>Just a thought about other Open source CRM initiatives although not coded in PHP<br />
Have a look as they seem to have a workflow system working&#8230; : <a href="http://www.centriccrm.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.centriccrm.com/</a></p>
<p>Keep up the spirit and the excellent work Thank you for all the work done !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Richie</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-307</link>
		<author>Richie</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 05:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-307</guid>
					<description>Hi!
Thanks for the feedbacks. I will have a relook at planypus again.

In the meantime, I had a look at
http://www.eventicus.de/. It is german so could not make much progress but seems to be a digg-like event format. It may even be in the format of http://eventful.com. Even then, eventful.com is not exactly what I am looking at.
Eventful is a good idea but I am not sure if the way the data is formatted is something that I would want. Not that the application is incorrect, just that, I am not sure how to use that to my advantage.

More to come as I review ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!<br />
Thanks for the feedbacks. I will have a relook at planypus again.</p>
<p>In the meantime, I had a look at<br />
<a href="http://www.eventicus.de/." rel="nofollow">http://www.eventicus.de/.</a> It is german so could not make much progress but seems to be a digg-like event format. It may even be in the format of <a href="http://eventful.com." rel="nofollow">http://eventful.com.</a> Even then, eventful.com is not exactly what I am looking at.<br />
Eventful is a good idea but I am not sure if the way the data is formatted is something that I would want. Not that the application is incorrect, just that, I am not sure how to use that to my advantage.</p>
<p>More to come as I review &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RV</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-309</link>
		<author>RV</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-309</guid>
					<description>Hi Richie,
:)

Just to complete your tour, please have a look at the Google's shared calendar (you'll need a Gmail account). It's really amazing, the ajax implementation is perfect (you can resize a meeting or change it with the mouse).

Some colored features (places / involved participants) would be appreciate.
And, that's my long run demand, we need to enforce this "events" table to add many informations, adding the capabilities to link files, adding custom fields (for task management in a project, for example) and availibility to link an event with whatever in the DB ...
But I think I'm becoming heavy on this.
:D

RV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Richie,<br />
 <img src='http://blogs.vtiger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Just to complete your tour, please have a look at the Google&#8217;s shared calendar (you&#8217;ll need a Gmail account). It&#8217;s really amazing, the ajax implementation is perfect (you can resize a meeting or change it with the mouse).</p>
<p>Some colored features (places / involved participants) would be appreciate.<br />
And, that&#8217;s my long run demand, we need to enforce this &#8220;events&#8221; table to add many informations, adding the capabilities to link files, adding custom fields (for task management in a project, for example) and availibility to link an event with whatever in the DB &#8230;<br />
But I think I&#8217;m becoming heavy on this.<br />
 <img src='http://blogs.vtiger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>RV.</p>
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		<title>By: RV</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-310</link>
		<author>RV</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-310</guid>
					<description>Edit : 
If it could be possible to publish in the iCal format (that is begining to be a standard), we could use it with Horde IMP, Sunrise, ... and many other php website apps.

RV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edit :<br />
If it could be possible to publish in the iCal format (that is begining to be a standard), we could use it with Horde IMP, Sunrise, &#8230; and many other php website apps.</p>
<p>RV.</p>
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		<title>By: richie</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-313</link>
		<author>richie</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 12:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-313</guid>
					<description>Hi RV!
Thanks for the great idea!
I will see if we can have it in 5.1 as it cannot be as of now accomodated in the bug fix releases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi RV!<br />
Thanks for the great idea!<br />
I will see if we can have it in 5.1 as it cannot be as of now accomodated in the bug fix releases.</p>
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		<title>By: Richie</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-314</link>
		<author>Richie</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 12:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-314</guid>
					<description>I just finished reviewing CalendarHub. Very good indeed but lacks finesse. The drag and drop was good and the entire approach seems logical. There are certain feature breakages but I hope they will be fixed. UI wise, they need lots of improvement, but I will still rate them as the best I have seen yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished reviewing CalendarHub. Very good indeed but lacks finesse. The drag and drop was good and the entire approach seems logical. There are certain feature breakages but I hope they will be fixed. UI wise, they need lots of improvement, but I will still rate them as the best I have seen yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Richie</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-315</link>
		<author>Richie</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-315</guid>
					<description>Reviewed Planzo. It is more eye-candy stuff than CalendarHub. The features are different so if done properly, it might have its own market. The themed background is something that is new and exciting to watch but as it changes rapidly it may seem like an irritant to many(it was to me for sure). The guys have given it thought and it is seemingly more fun-loving; nothing wrong with that but just that I think they do not have a particular focus in mind, seems too free-spirited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reviewed Planzo. It is more eye-candy stuff than CalendarHub. The features are different so if done properly, it might have its own market. The themed background is something that is new and exciting to watch but as it changes rapidly it may seem like an irritant to many(it was to me for sure). The guys have given it thought and it is seemingly more fun-loving; nothing wrong with that but just that I think they do not have a particular focus in mind, seems too free-spirited.</p>
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		<title>By: Richie</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-316</link>
		<author>Richie</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-316</guid>
					<description>AirSet is so full of features that it can hardly be used. I would like to have a much cleaner UI with a lot less features. It seemed too obnoxious as of now.  Not to belittle it but it has so many features that there has not been any attempt to make it seem logical and coherent. The white space has been used to the point of congestion and features that are not used that frequently too are given. Not for the common user but a very very elite set of users that want exotic features at the least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AirSet is so full of features that it can hardly be used. I would like to have a much cleaner UI with a lot less features. It seemed too obnoxious as of now.  Not to belittle it but it has so many features that there has not been any attempt to make it seem logical and coherent. The white space has been used to the point of congestion and features that are not used that frequently too are given. Not for the common user but a very very elite set of users that want exotic features at the least.</p>
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		<title>By: Richie</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-317</link>
		<author>Richie</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-317</guid>
					<description>Remember The Milk is by God the fastest calendar I have seen yet. It is amazing but not sure if it has all the features yet. Sad as it would have been great if it had the CalendarHub features in it, it would have been almost unbeatable.

Amazingly neat and very smart calendar seen till now. Worth the time to have a look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember The Milk is by God the fastest calendar I have seen yet. It is amazing but not sure if it has all the features yet. Sad as it would have been great if it had the CalendarHub features in it, it would have been almost unbeatable.</p>
<p>Amazingly neat and very smart calendar seen till now. Worth the time to have a look.</p>
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		<title>By: Richie</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-318</link>
		<author>Richie</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-318</guid>
					<description>HipCal is good but not great. Not much Ajaxification done. Has the required features and has a very good categorization concept. Needs to have a more focused implementation. Right now, it seems to be Alpha stage at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HipCal is good but not great. Not much Ajaxification done. Has the required features and has a very good categorization concept. Needs to have a more focused implementation. Right now, it seems to be Alpha stage at best.</p>
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		<title>By: Richie</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-319</link>
		<author>Richie</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-319</guid>
					<description>Tried epointment to no avail. Could not even register for some funny reason so dropped it.
Jotlet seems to have issues in Firefox. Will try out in IE and get back shortly.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tried epointment to no avail. Could not even register for some funny reason so dropped it.<br />
Jotlet seems to have issues in Firefox. Will try out in IE and get back shortly&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Richie</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-320</link>
		<author>Richie</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-320</guid>
					<description>jotlet.net has been a good letdown. Showed lots of promise but does not have good javascript and Ajax handling. Makes me more than conscious of the level of expectation the community has of vtiger. 
Have to test the product more and more thoroughly in all versions of browser and all kinds of browsers.

All in all, jotlet.net did not give me a memorable experience but instead a forgettable one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jotlet.net has been a good letdown. Showed lots of promise but does not have good javascript and Ajax handling. Makes me more than conscious of the level of expectation the community has of vtiger.<br />
Have to test the product more and more thoroughly in all versions of browser and all kinds of browsers.</p>
<p>All in all, jotlet.net did not give me a memorable experience but instead a forgettable one.</p>
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		<title>By: Richie</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-321</link>
		<author>Richie</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-321</guid>
					<description>Tried Spongecell. Another forgettable experience. The UI is pretty cluttered. The color combo too needs to be relooked at again.
Nothing worth mentioning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tried Spongecell. Another forgettable experience. The UI is pretty cluttered. The color combo too needs to be relooked at again.<br />
Nothing worth mentioning.</p>
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		<title>By: Richie</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-323</link>
		<author>Richie</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-323</guid>
					<description>Now, I am going to analyze the following and call it quits :-

30boxes
google calendar
trumba
apple calendar

I think that exhausts the list of web-2.0 calendars of repute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, I am going to analyze the following and call it quits :-</p>
<p>30boxes<br />
google calendar<br />
trumba<br />
apple calendar</p>
<p>I think that exhausts the list of web-2.0 calendars of repute.</p>
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		<title>By: Richie</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-324</link>
		<author>Richie</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-324</guid>
					<description>Finished reviewing 30boxes in my Firefox-2.0 browser. The xperience is not mind blowing. It is no doubt pretty standard-good but not too exciting a stuff. 
The flow is good but we can make it a lot more smoother and correct.
A good tool though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finished reviewing 30boxes in my Firefox-2.0 browser. The xperience is not mind blowing. It is no doubt pretty standard-good but not too exciting a stuff.<br />
The flow is good but we can make it a lot more smoother and correct.<br />
A good tool though.</p>
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		<title>By: Richie</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-325</link>
		<author>Richie</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 19:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-325</guid>
					<description>Reviewed trumba. Was good. Could have been made more usable and could have some more white space. A web1.0 calendar with all the right features. A little bit of Ajax thrown in will do magic. I think it is not being used too much as it is still behind in terms of technology. But all in all, a good package for the oldies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reviewed trumba. Was good. Could have been made more usable and could have some more white space. A web1.0 calendar with all the right features. A little bit of Ajax thrown in will do magic. I think it is not being used too much as it is still behind in terms of technology. But all in all, a good package for the oldies.</p>
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		<title>By: Richie</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-326</link>
		<author>Richie</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 19:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-326</guid>
					<description>Some time to respond to the feedbacks. 

Remco, I need to have some Ajaxified stuff with the right combination of features and Ajax. Not too lopsided else it spoils the experience. Something that is really intuitive and useful. Till now, I have only come across products which are good at either of them but not both. I am striving to find a good example to learn from.

I have downloaded the mozilla calendar in the meantime and am playing with it. Will write the review for the same shortly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some time to respond to the feedbacks. </p>
<p>Remco, I need to have some Ajaxified stuff with the right combination of features and Ajax. Not too lopsided else it spoils the experience. Something that is really intuitive and useful. Till now, I have only come across products which are good at either of them but not both. I am striving to find a good example to learn from.</p>
<p>I have downloaded the mozilla calendar in the meantime and am playing with it. Will write the review for the same shortly.</p>
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		<title>By: Richie</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-327</link>
		<author>Richie</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 19:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-327</guid>
					<description>Hi Alex!
Thanks for taking out sometime to comment on my blog.
I am actually looking for a web-2.0 calendar with the right balance of Ajax and features from which I can learn the features and how they are to be shown in the vtiger calendar.
I feel that the vtiger calendar is still not upto the mark hence the study.
I will anyway keep your point in mind about planypus. You never know when things come in handy.
Kindly do not misunderstand my not reviewing planypus, it is just not what I am looking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alex!<br />
Thanks for taking out sometime to comment on my blog.<br />
I am actually looking for a web-2.0 calendar with the right balance of Ajax and features from which I can learn the features and how they are to be shown in the vtiger calendar.<br />
I feel that the vtiger calendar is still not upto the mark hence the study.<br />
I will anyway keep your point in mind about planypus. You never know when things come in handy.<br />
Kindly do not misunderstand my not reviewing planypus, it is just not what I am looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Chizhik</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-330</link>
		<author>Alex Chizhik</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-330</guid>
					<description>Richie,

Not a problem at all, I completely understand :). Although Planypus does have a calendar feature its is build more around planning democratically, rather than a straight calendar feature, thus probably not something that you are immediately looking for. If you do decide to plan events I hope you give Planypus a shot. Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richie,</p>
<p>Not a problem at all, I completely understand :). Although Planypus does have a calendar feature its is build more around planning democratically, rather than a straight calendar feature, thus probably not something that you are immediately looking for. If you do decide to plan events I hope you give Planypus a shot. Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Richie</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-331</link>
		<author>Richie</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-331</guid>
					<description>Right now, I am looking at google calendar. I also discovered that kiko still exists so will add that too to the list of calendars to review.

google calendar is really the right balance that I have found till now. I think it meets my requirements too. Still I will have a look at kiko and Apple Calendar.
Time for a tea-break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now, I am looking at google calendar. I also discovered that kiko still exists so will add that too to the list of calendars to review.</p>
<p>google calendar is really the right balance that I have found till now. I think it meets my requirements too. Still I will have a look at kiko and Apple Calendar.<br />
Time for a tea-break.</p>
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		<title>By: Richie</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2006/11/03/reviewing-calendars/#comment-332</link>
		<author>Richie</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 03:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Reviewed kiko as well. The implementation is nice but seemed too congested for my liking. In some areas, the implementation seems amateurish like when they show the Trash Icon. It is a good feature but usability takes a beating. The flow is a little not so smooth. It is good but not to my satisfaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reviewed kiko as well. The implementation is nice but seemed too congested for my liking. In some areas, the implementation seems amateurish like when they show the Trash Icon. It is a good feature but usability takes a beating. The flow is a little not so smooth. It is good but not to my satisfaction.</p>
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