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	<title>Comments on: Update on vtiger progress</title>
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		<title>By: rasomu</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2007/07/13/update-on-vtiger-progress/#comment-26063</link>
		<author>rasomu</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2007/07/13/update-on-vtiger-progress/#comment-26063</guid>
					<description>Hi Richie,

Congratulations, you still doing a great job, but your post brings me a question.

Do I have to understand that modularization is not a "must do" on your roadmap?, because all the post is about integration.

Maybe it's time you do an upgrade to Vtiger Road map.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Richie,</p>
<p>Congratulations, you still doing a great job, but your post brings me a question.</p>
<p>Do I have to understand that modularization is not a &#8220;must do&#8221; on your roadmap?, because all the post is about integration.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s time you do an upgrade to Vtiger Road map.</p>
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		<title>By: richie</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2007/07/13/update-on-vtiger-progress/#comment-26070</link>
		<author>richie</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2007/07/13/update-on-vtiger-progress/#comment-26070</guid>
					<description>Hi Rasomu!

Modularization is certainly there in the roadmap but I am not able to comment if we can take it up now. There was a lot of soul-searching on that issue here too and we realised that there is too much clean up to do first.

I have deliberately not updated the roadmap because things are very fluid and we are not able to keep to the commitments. By setting expectations and not keeping them, leaves a bad taste hence have decided not to update them.

Once things are reasonably shaping up, then, I will be able to state what is coming up in the next release. In the meantime, the community is welcome to checkout the code and have a look.

There are plans to make the developer list more audible from our side too. We have not done much work on that front. So that should make up for some of the silence.

We are also helping out the folks in the forum to an extent now so that they can come upto speed.  This is also to ensure that there is proper communication happening towards the developer front. 

I would still encourage the folks to buy support though.

Richie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rasomu!</p>
<p>Modularization is certainly there in the roadmap but I am not able to comment if we can take it up now. There was a lot of soul-searching on that issue here too and we realised that there is too much clean up to do first.</p>
<p>I have deliberately not updated the roadmap because things are very fluid and we are not able to keep to the commitments. By setting expectations and not keeping them, leaves a bad taste hence have decided not to update them.</p>
<p>Once things are reasonably shaping up, then, I will be able to state what is coming up in the next release. In the meantime, the community is welcome to checkout the code and have a look.</p>
<p>There are plans to make the developer list more audible from our side too. We have not done much work on that front. So that should make up for some of the silence.</p>
<p>We are also helping out the folks in the forum to an extent now so that they can come upto speed.  This is also to ensure that there is proper communication happening towards the developer front. </p>
<p>I would still encourage the folks to buy support though.</p>
<p>Richie</p>
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		<title>By: RaF</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2007/07/13/update-on-vtiger-progress/#comment-26074</link>
		<author>RaF</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2007/07/13/update-on-vtiger-progress/#comment-26074</guid>
					<description>Thanks for your fast response Richie, as said many times before I'm not developer so I can't help you cleanning the code, but here are my two cents.

I'm the es_es language translator. One thing you should do is try to concentrate all strings in just one file.

There are many strings that repeat all over modules, so when you are translating that strings is quasi-imposible to keep it the same because they have different tags.

In some modules you have done some "string adding" for building dinamic messages, but haven't thought than in other languages we have different gramatical estructures so when they became translated they have no sense.

Integrating the language module on Vtiger is also a good idea, some companies have different spelings for same concepts, adding the module give that companies the chance of customizating the Crm without the needings of knowning anithing of vtiger structure.

I wish that words helps you someway or give you some new idea.

Keep doing.

RaF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your fast response Richie, as said many times before I&#8217;m not developer so I can&#8217;t help you cleanning the code, but here are my two cents.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m the es_es language translator. One thing you should do is try to concentrate all strings in just one file.</p>
<p>There are many strings that repeat all over modules, so when you are translating that strings is quasi-imposible to keep it the same because they have different tags.</p>
<p>In some modules you have done some &#8220;string adding&#8221; for building dinamic messages, but haven&#8217;t thought than in other languages we have different gramatical estructures so when they became translated they have no sense.</p>
<p>Integrating the language module on Vtiger is also a good idea, some companies have different spelings for same concepts, adding the module give that companies the chance of customizating the Crm without the needings of knowning anithing of vtiger structure.</p>
<p>I wish that words helps you someway or give you some new idea.</p>
<p>Keep doing.</p>
<p>RaF</p>
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		<title>By: Aissa</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2007/07/13/update-on-vtiger-progress/#comment-26079</link>
		<author>Aissa</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2007/07/13/update-on-vtiger-progress/#comment-26079</guid>
					<description>Hi RaF,
i desagree with you on one point. 
I think it's better to keep language in differents folder. A lang string can take another sense from a module to another for us in france.

To have a "lang manager" can be a good think, but i think to have a real data dictionnary can be better. Like that we can have custom field translated in different lang...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi RaF,<br />
i desagree with you on one point.<br />
I think it&#8217;s better to keep language in differents folder. A lang string can take another sense from a module to another for us in france.</p>
<p>To have a &#8220;lang manager&#8221; can be a good think, but i think to have a real data dictionnary can be better. Like that we can have custom field translated in different lang&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rasomu</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2007/07/13/update-on-vtiger-progress/#comment-26081</link>
		<author>rasomu</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2007/07/13/update-on-vtiger-progress/#comment-26081</guid>
					<description>I iagree with you Aissa, different meanings need different strings, but what about some words like Accounts, Contact, Telephone, Fax .... that repeats on each module, or the picklists.

The exceptions you are saying I have registered on spanish no more than three or four.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I iagree with you Aissa, different meanings need different strings, but what about some words like Accounts, Contact, Telephone, Fax &#8230;. that repeats on each module, or the picklists.</p>
<p>The exceptions you are saying I have registered on spanish no more than three or four.</p>
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		<title>By: Slipperyman</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2007/07/13/update-on-vtiger-progress/#comment-26086</link>
		<author>Slipperyman</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2007/07/13/update-on-vtiger-progress/#comment-26086</guid>
					<description>I think that multicurrency per user support and Snaphots of quotes &#38; Sales orders on every edit after its creation is a must.
it´s not useful to attach the pdf to the quote or so every time it´s edited to keep record of changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that multicurrency per user support and Snaphots of quotes &amp; Sales orders on every edit after its creation is a must.<br />
it´s not useful to attach the pdf to the quote or so every time it´s edited to keep record of changes.</p>
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		<title>By: Richie</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2007/07/13/update-on-vtiger-progress/#comment-26103</link>
		<author>Richie</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2007/07/13/update-on-vtiger-progress/#comment-26103</guid>
					<description>Webmails too has been given a lot of attention. Srinivas has handled most of the issues. We are working on the Character-set issue and that is the only thorn left out on that front.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Webmails too has been given a lot of attention. Srinivas has handled most of the issues. We are working on the Character-set issue and that is the only thorn left out on that front.</p>
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		<title>By: Aissa</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2007/07/13/update-on-vtiger-progress/#comment-26117</link>
		<author>Aissa</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2007/07/13/update-on-vtiger-progress/#comment-26117</guid>
					<description>I agree Richie, actually we doesn't use webmail as part of vtiger CRM. Unusable for us. Caracter problem, slow... Improve in future is a good idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Richie, actually we doesn&#8217;t use webmail as part of vtiger CRM. Unusable for us. Caracter problem, slow&#8230; Improve in future is a good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Gopal</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2007/07/13/update-on-vtiger-progress/#comment-26730</link>
		<author>Gopal</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 13:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2007/07/13/update-on-vtiger-progress/#comment-26730</guid>
					<description>As a first step, we have configured IMAP server for our own (vtiger Company) Business System to fetch Sales/Services/Partnership/Info mails. In the next few days our goal is to make Web mail usable for us, so that we can provide a working solution for our business community.

I will post our experience, once we have successfully completed this operation.

Regards,
Gopal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a first step, we have configured IMAP server for our own (vtiger Company) Business System to fetch Sales/Services/Partnership/Info mails. In the next few days our goal is to make Web mail usable for us, so that we can provide a working solution for our business community.</p>
<p>I will post our experience, once we have successfully completed this operation.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Gopal</p>
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		<title>By: Deep</title>
		<link>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2007/07/13/update-on-vtiger-progress/#comment-35986</link>
		<author>Deep</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vtiger.com/blogs/2007/07/13/update-on-vtiger-progress/#comment-35986</guid>
					<description>Hi Guys,

Can you update the community on the latest happening in vtiger team!!  New features, roadmap, etc and any plans for 5.04 or 5.1, etc. etc. I guess its about time!!

We got really excited to see 5.03, but it has further escalated our hunger :-)

Keep up the great work!!

Regards,
Deep</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guys,</p>
<p>Can you update the community on the latest happening in vtiger team!!  New features, roadmap, etc and any plans for 5.04 or 5.1, etc. etc. I guess its about time!!</p>
<p>We got really excited to see 5.03, but it has further escalated our hunger <img src='http://blogs.vtiger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Keep up the great work!!</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Deep</p>
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