vtiger Release Schedule

We have received requests from the user community to provide visibility into the vtiger roadmap. I would like to thank them for being patient! Our current plan is as follows:
  • 5.0.3 Patch in 4 weeks time
  • 5.1 Release by end of December
  • 6.0 Release next year
After 5.0.3 release, and the subsequent patch for PHP 5.2, we along with community help have closed about 150 trouble tickets. We will be bundling these fixes together in a patch, and release it in about 4 weeks time after we complete the validation. For a complete list of issues that are resolved, please see this list of tickets that have been closed since 5.0.3 release The patch will include support for UTF-8 (except in a couple of modules that still depend on a PDF library which doesn’t support UTF-8) . In addition, we hope to fix the POP3 mail access issue. We’ll be finalizing and sharing the features list for 5.1 in a few weeks time. For Release 6.0, the next major release, our goal is to have small core framework and pluggable modules applications and web services. UPDATE: Based on the feedback we received, we are now planning to also distribute the upcoming patch as a fully integrated release (will be labeled 5.0.4). So, there will be two downloads:
  1. 5.0.3 users can download and install the patch in order to upgrade to 5.0.4.
  2. New users can download the integrated 5.0.4 release (this download includes 5.0.3 + patch)
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rasomu
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rasomu

We’ve got AGAIN the same issue with naming. If the next release resolves many tickets, why is not 5.0.4?

By the way, 4 weeks for release alpha?, beta?, RC? It’s been so long taking out an stable release. Are you sure this patch doesn’t break anything? I know that pop3 access is a very demanded issue, but IMHO it fits better on a 5.1 rather than a 5.0.4.

And finaly, Are you sure you could respect the yimings you have planned. Last time you announced a 3-month release take nearly a year and a half.

I any case, good work kkep going.

PD. Rememeber of translators for 5.1, try to include some help on translatios, thanks.

XD

Rasomu
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Rasomu

You mean that it’s not better doing a 5.0.4 release with two packets, one for upgrade and another one with full instalation and let the user decide wich one toinstall.

“We’ll consider this after releasing the patch.”

I think you may consider it BEFORE releasing the patch, after the patch you can get the same release with different namings (5.0.3+patch & 5.0.4) or same naming to different releases (I asume that for new 5.0.4 you will add some new closed tickets to patched 5.0.3) none of them seems very logical

Nick
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Nick

Please use the industry standard logical numbering, X.Y.Z

X = major version
Y = minor version
Z = bugfixes

It is SO confusing to have 5.0.3+patch. Why NOT 5.0.4?

For new customers it is confusing to have to download and then immediately install a patch, and for existing customers, the will have to apply the patch, so why not just ask them to upgrade instead? It’s purely a naming thing, so why not keep it simple???!

John
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John

I think releasing a patch is the right approach myself.

I would rather have a patch to install than a whole new install of vtiger.

6.0 Sounds like vtiger has listened to the community and is taking the CRM in the right direction, this is very positive news indeed.

Nick
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Nick

I don’t think anyone would dispute the benefits of a patch over a full new install; this is purely in the naming.

zultric
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zultric

“The patch will include support for UTF-8 (except in a couple of modules that still depend on a PDF library which doesn’t support UTF-8)”. Are you guys serious ?! you are missing the point here.

MTC
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MTC

It’s good to hear that there is a defined roadmap, again 🙂

Joule
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Joule

Dear,

Hello bro

i’m Joule from Indonesia. i really like your Vtiger application. i used this to handle CRM apps with my client alsi as helpdesk application.

you know i’m waiting for next release of VTiger.

great work dude,

Joule

mato
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mato

@Rasomu : you sound a bit rude. What is good with logic is that different roads can be taken for same achievements.
@zultric : you sound rude, though i agree foreign characters in pdf are crucial for the whole project. Unfortunately, the pdf library used is just NOT UTF-8 compatible. Maybe Vtiger could use TCPDF, which Joomla! now uses and that is Unicode enabled. I know this would make lot of new code as printing templates would need to be updated. Be they need to be anyway, don’t they ?

Anyway, good to know about the roadmap!
And good luck in hunting down those POP3 bugs !!
-Mato

mato
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mato

“TCPDF is an extension and improvement of the FPDF class (www.fpdf.org). Supports UTF-8, Unicode, HTML and XHTML”
So maybe not so much rewrite after all…

rasomu
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rasomu

@Rasomu : you sound a bit rude. What is good with logic is that different roads can be taken for same achievements.

Dear Mato, I’m not trying to be rude, but I’m very sceptical with Vtigerteam announcements, that doesn’t means I didn’t admire the effort they put on their work.

The namming conventions is not the first time that is commented and IMHO is a MUST for, if you want that your community could understand what you are doing. Nick explains it very well.

I don’t know if you remember what was 5.0.0 patch 1, patch 2… everyone with different issues and caracteristics working in different modules… It was more than a pain.

Now Vteam does things slightly different, much better, but I have my reserves on their way of doing things. I’m sorry, I’m a human being.

Sreenivas Kanumuru
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Sreenivas Kanumuru

@Rasomu,@Nick: We have revised our plans to now release the patch also as a 5.0.4 integrated release. (Original post has been updated.)

Regarding the schedule, while we will try to meet our target date, because of unpredictable nature of software development as with anything else in life, we cannot guarantee it.

@mato: We are infact switching to TCPDF

rasomu
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rasomu

1.- Congratulations, I wait that 5.0.4 RC for doing the translation.

2.- The schedule… I don’t want to know at second when is going to be launch a new release, just knowing if it is realistic and can be acomplished (except natural dissasters :-P)

Nick
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Nick

Brilliant — I think it will add to the credibility of the project, and make support much easier. Well done for listening to your users!

MTC
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MTC

One question for the planned 5.* releases (not sure whether this is the right place to ask, thus “sorry” in advance if it’s not): is it likely, that the newly released project management module from DifferentSolutions will continue to work with those releases, or will the framework change so significantly that we should better assume otherwise?

Mato
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Mato

I see you handle critics the right way… Hats off to these decisions !

-Mato

Martin
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Martin

Does this patch include database updates???…

If so, please, warn us from updating!!!!

Tim
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Tim

As we get closer to the GA or 5.04 GA can we get a “roadmap” update for

– vtiger 5.1 GA date and
– vtiger 6.0 GA date

thank you

Tim
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Tim

I have been testing the new release of vtiger 5.04.

I am very impressed with your documentation as I was expecting trouble. I believe as long as you read the install manual/requirements and setting, admins will have no problems installing, setting up and using this CRM product. Very nice. I will continue my testing.

I realize that the 5.1 release is postponed due to the amount of change and testing required for 5.04.

Can you update your target dates for the 5.1 release?

Thank you.

PS. I have been going to trac.vtiger.xxx as well but the 5.1 has not been updated in more than 6 months. I am thinking there is something terribly wrong.

Sreenivas Kanumuru
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Sreenivas Kanumuru

@Tim:

5.1 release is expected to be released to public in the August/September timeframe. We will soon be posting more details on this.

We are trying to keep the trac up-to-date. Please view the ‘All tickets by Milestone’ report under ‘Available Reports’ to see the latest activity.

-Sreenivas Kanumuru (vtiger Team)

rasomu
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rasomu

Hi Vtiger team.

Is this a 5.1 release or a 5.0.5?
Does it include modularization?
Are you going to include a module for installing languages(as language pack wizard?

Are you sure 3 months is enough time for betas an RCs? rememember 5.0.4 just a few lines above.

Cheers

Sreenivas
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Sreenivas

@rasomu,

We expect to release 5.1 in August/September timeframe. It will have feature enhancements and bug fixes. 5.1 will not have any architecture changes to support modularization. That will come in 6.0 release.

We haven’t finalized a decision on including the language pack wizard in 5.1. Work has started on 5.1 release more than a month ago, and we are making good progress. We will have an update with more details in a few days time.

-Sreenivas

AS
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AS

Hi Sreenivas,
When is the 5.1 release expected?
We need some of the features that are coming up in 5.1.

Btw, just curious – has vTiger development slowed down after Zoho launched its own CRM?
Hope thats not the case…

Thanks!

Sreenivas
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Sreenivas

@AS,

We have not finalized the dates for 5.1. We have expanded the scope of 5.1 to include more enhancements. Until we do a code freeze and start validation, we will not be able to identify the probable release dates.

As you can see, we are getting more ambitious with vtiger and expanding its capabilities and only expect to increase the pace.

-Sreenivas

Balduin
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Balduin

Sreenivas,
from 5.1, what I have seen so far, I like most the enhancements you do for already existing functions, like you did to customs lists. There is much room for such enhancements.

In my opinion the most important are enhancments for the communications to devices and applications outside the CRM. A seamless export and import of all kind data and synchronizing with other applications are at the current stage much more important than new features for handling of data within CRM.
For instance, the Plugins and Extenions should operate with Vista and Office 2007. The synchronisation of the Outlook calendar should include group related entries and not delete unsupported entries at Outlook.

Sreenivas Kanumuru
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Sreenivas Kanumuru

@Balduin,

Thanks for the feedback. I agree that integration and extenssibility of vtiger is as critical as built-in functionality. We are making progress on the extensibility front, with the vtlib library. To support integration with other tools, we will be offering an enhanced API in 5.1

To my knowledge, the vtiger CRM Outlook and Office plugins already works on Office 2007. On Vista, prior to installing the plugins a configuration should be changed (UAC should be disabled from MSCONFIG -> TOOLS).

Kindly share more details about the Outlook enhancements you are looking for.

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